tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13205212.post113374793247023037..comments2023-07-21T11:16:18.956-05:00Comments on This Week in Oshkosh: No Room at the InnGaryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14089389433231675841noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13205212.post-1151769771862831132006-07-01T11:02:00.000-05:002006-07-01T11:02:00.000-05:00As a teenager living in Oshkosh in the 80's, Fater...As a teenager living in Oshkosh in the 80's, Fater Carr's Place 2B was a great place to go to listen to music and get drunk or high. It was totally overseen by 19-20 yr old derelicks! I personally knew of a teenager who obtained liquor from his Place 2B (not Carr himself, but one of the 20 yr olds) taken to a house where a young lady was babysitting and when the parents returned found their babysitter passed out on the couch and thankfully both babies safe! I remember Father Carr going down for this back then and I think the place closed for awhile I am very sad to see that nothing has changed. I am glad that Appleton has gotten homeless people back on their feet as a family member now needs those services. I agree with Carr's philosphy on one point. People in need of these services often hhave a million and one excuses and can find someone else responsible for their predicament. I am a firm believer that you can lead the horse to water bu you can not make them drink. I can not financially support my family member, but can give them the information to help themselves. I do hope there are organizations out there that do not enable but really help organize and stabilize these individuals lives. I do know from experience that if you owe and don't do anything about it at all it just grows and grows and grows. I have never liked Carr even when i was a child he is nasty and I always thought that catholic priests could not possess anything or did that idea go out when the raping was brought up in the news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13205212.post-1135199377455021262005-12-21T15:09:00.000-06:002005-12-21T15:09:00.000-06:00to the last anonomous:If it was Jesus, no, never! ...to the last anonomous:<BR/>If it was Jesus, no, never! it's god duh!<BR/><BR/>What about the little ones?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13205212.post-1135179171696671402005-12-21T09:32:00.000-06:002005-12-21T09:32:00.000-06:00To the volunteer, I can perform funerals too but I...To the volunteer, I can perform funerals too but I don't proclaim to be a priest. Would your (father) kick out the disciples or jesus because they would refuse to shave their beards or moustaches.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13205212.post-1135004675184142242005-12-19T09:04:00.000-06:002005-12-19T09:04:00.000-06:00bones, you sure have got that right!bones, you sure have got that right!AngelAiken AKA Thee U.M.O.Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16351556619150231350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13205212.post-1134856598132595482005-12-17T15:56:00.000-06:002005-12-17T15:56:00.000-06:00i for one iam not happy with martin,carr with him ...i for one iam not happy with martin,carr with him he hides be hind amask and if any body,knows what i mean.has akid he started out at st pete,s church with the place to be,on pearl st i for one still think thers something fishee about him,isher hope they do something about him and the way he hides behind that mask.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13205212.post-1134494598627861132005-12-13T11:23:00.000-06:002005-12-13T11:23:00.000-06:00"Father" does help some, but it is just not enough..."Father" does help some, but it is just not enough. This is an important issue and I think that it raises the question of his monopoly on housing.<BR/>Yes, monopoly on housing!<BR/>A monopoly is defined as having total control over and that's what "father" has. And it gives him too much power, someone else should step in as a second and keep him in check...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13205212.post-1134481460113922102005-12-13T07:44:00.000-06:002005-12-13T07:44:00.000-06:00Heady reply Tony! InsightfulHeady reply Tony! InsightfulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13205212.post-1134441963734300092005-12-12T20:46:00.000-06:002005-12-12T20:46:00.000-06:00To Anonymous: You say "I think Tony does a disserv...To Anonymous: <BR/><BR/>You say "I think Tony does a disservice . . ." I think you have me confused with the blog author. I have not written any "story" about this issue--not yet anyway. --Tonytony palmerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13506831576450002435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13205212.post-1134413247209162852005-12-12T12:47:00.000-06:002005-12-12T12:47:00.000-06:00Father Carr has helped countless people out of tro...Father Carr has helped countless people out of troubled times. Sometimes the situation people get into are overwhelming and poor decions have been made. Fr Carr helps to structure their lives and and get a foothold in the world. If this structure or plan is not followed one person could cause chaos in a shelter. This is not a flop house for the chronic poor decision makers it is a place of security that celebrates people trying to better themselves. If you need a place to stay but cannot follow the structure that allows all within to thrive then you have to find somewhere else to go. I have been a volenteer at the homeless shelter and seen people come and go. The group sessions are honest and the rules are straight forward. People in times of crisis do not need anarchy. They need support and safety. Anyone person who cannot be counted on to make the step to helping themselves need to find a different place to stay. Many come back when they come to the conclusion that we all need to help ourselves in a way that is not detrimental to the group. <BR/> Father Carr is not Mister Carr he is a Catholic priest and any disrespect shown to his title is a slap in the face to the Catholic church. Father has been working for the homeless all his life he is also working for the good of people in Oshkosh who help out aat the Place 2B. He is a trained professional who will stand up for all the people in the shelter by making rules that keep people moving forward in their time of trouble.<BR/> I think Tony does a disservice to Oshkosh by taking a situation between Oshkosh and Appleton and make a "story". Homeless people are often in a bad situation and blame comes easily. They move from shelter to shelter and explain why things didn't work out in the last place they were sheltered. I'm sure I could add stories about the other crisis centers but thats not the point. The point is Father helps people the way they need to be helped instead of filling in a wish list. If helping the poor was as easy and tidy as donating a slightly used article of clothing every year we would have the problem liked. But individual people make their own decisions and if they are not healthy they will not "pull themselve up by the bootstraps". These people cannot stay and poison the system.<BR/> Father does many poor people's funerals. Father Carr was there. Before you go stripping, people who are trying to help, of their dignity you better have a better understanding of the complexity of their problems.<BR/> Oshkosh is blessed with the Christine Anne Center and the Place 2B because we love our city and give joyfully to those who have less. <BR/> Glory to God, Peace starts with food and shelter. <BR/> Merry ChristmasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13205212.post-1134145979577968122005-12-09T10:32:00.000-06:002005-12-09T10:32:00.000-06:00Too much room is right!I have been telling others ...Too much room is right!<BR/>I have been telling others about this to help you, something needs to be done.AngelAiken AKA Thee U.M.O.Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16351556619150231350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13205212.post-1133888869648015392005-12-06T11:07:00.000-06:002005-12-06T11:07:00.000-06:00Gary, Based on the content of your post, perhaps a...Gary, <BR/><BR/>Based on the content of your post, perhaps a more accurate headline would be "TOO MUCH Room at the Inn." --TPtony palmerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13506831576450002435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13205212.post-1133888532780607772005-12-06T11:02:00.000-06:002005-12-06T11:02:00.000-06:00I remember the last time I was at the Christene An...I remember the last time I was at the Christene Ann Center, I was there for community service for reasons I wish not to disclose...<BR/>anyways, I did a lot of work there and they seemed to be full up too, I always heard someone talking or yelling near the houses.<BR/>They told me that if I ever needed to(I was with an abusive boyfriend) I could stay there and get away from him for a few days.<BR/>Some people there had been there for years and lord did they need it! The center had the charity to keep them there too!<BR/>After my time was done there, I continued to keep close ties with the center and I learned that not only will they help battered men and women but they will help just about anyone. I have on several occasions had to go there to file reports because I was too afraid to go to the police. They gladly did wonderfull services to help me out. When I left they did hint at a budget strain, I could tell just from my work.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Mr. Carr, I have had experiance with him too, his staff is politely rude, seems to want to be rid of you. I always seem to get the feeling someone is watching me whenever I go there.<BR/><BR/>One thing I dont understand is why did he move from downtown to all the way the heck out there by the highway. I could understand if he had a store out there and was trying to attract out of town visitors, but this is supposed to be a place to live! What is out there? Nothing!<BR/>I dont think that was a smart move doing that, it seems to me that he's making it very obvious that he does not want to help anyone, but he wants to have the power and prestige without doing anything.<BR/>Know what I mean?<BR/>Everyone I know has been so shocked by the writing, they all hold Mr.Carr into such high regard, that he really is doing his job. Mr. Carr is a human being and he can do wrong too!<BR/>It is up to those who have been wronged to get together and do something to get him to help, we are human beings too and we dont deserve to be treated as any less.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Carr, I want to know what you see in us. I want to know how you consider the things I hear justifiable. I dont even think you care anymore, I know what you used to be like.Please, tell us all what you mean by throwing people out into the freezing cold on their own.<BR/>When the spring comes and the thaw goes, I too will rejoice if no one dies. I dont want any more Ed Cooks, I dont want any more Pete's or "Jim"'s I WANT LIFE!<BR/>I want to know when will someone help us live here?<BR/>or do we have to be left hanging <BR/>for an answer from the only one that will?<BR/><BR/>Hope in this town is like the sunlight, it's fading into the darkness and in the cold abyss will we ever come out of the night?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com